Wednesday, September 7, 2011

A 'Friend' Of Carl Jung Writes

A supporter of Carl Jung writes in response to our post “Carl Jung And Friends” which has been up since Feb 2008, and becomes the 1st comment we’ve received defending Jung.
Anonymous said...
"JUng was a genius. He worked with the Allies and provided analysis of Hitler thatw ere very accurate including the prediction he would kill himself. Prior to the allied invasion of Europe, Eisenhower read his paper on how to get the German people to accept defeat.

Your web site is a strange mix of low IQ literacy with a profound hatred of that with is simply to challenging for you to understand because Jung defeats your intellectual capacity you make an enemy of Jung.

Your pictures and jokes are cude, faeces and dung, a crude and childish form of humour.

Your writing on young tells us nothing about Jung. Your strange attempt to make him a supporter of mein kamf, Hitler etc is just wrong and anyone who has read any Jung or studied his life knows that you are simply acting on your own compuslions and obsessions and projecting them on Jung (see Jung analysing Hitler for the Allies).
Jungian psychology is also behind the AA and the 12 steo program and his insights into the human psyche are profound and will be revelent for generations to come.

Sadly you are far to obsessed with Nazis and shit to begin to understand Jung and what you can;t understand you fear and hate.

Simply put, you come across as a moron.
We quote:
“Prior to the allied invasion of Europe, Eisenhower read his paper on how to get the German people to accept defeat.”
Obviously, Eisenhower was deeply affected by Jung’s paper, since He, Patton & Bradley pounded Germany into rubble in order to get the German people to accept defeat. Shows you pretty much what Ike thought of Jung and his paper.
“(see Jung analysing Hitler for the Allies)”
Jung – Agent #488 - went to Switzerland in 1943 to ‘analyze’ Hitler for Dulles. Let’s do the Timeline.
Hitler breaks the pact
During the early morning of 22 June 1941, Hitler broke the pact by implementing Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of Soviet held territories and the Soviet Union that began the war on the Eastern Front.[139] Although Stalin had received warnings from spies and his generals,[140][141][142][143][144] he felt that Germany would not attack the Soviet Union until Germany had defeated Britain.[140] In the initial hours after the German attack commenced, Stalin hesitated, wanting to ensure that the German attack was sanctioned by Hitler, rather than the unauthorized action of a rogue general.[23][page needed]
Accounts by Nikita Khrushchev and Anastas Mikoyan claim that, after the invasion, Stalin retreated to his dacha in despair for several days and did not participate in leadership decisions.[145] However, some documentary evidence of orders given by Stalin contradicts these accounts, leading some historians to speculate that Khrushchev's account is inaccurate.[146] By the end of 1941, the Soviet military had suffered 4.3 million casualties[147] and German forces had advanced 1,050 miles (1,690 kilometers).[148]
Soviets stop the Germans
While the Germans pressed forward, Stalin was confident of an eventual Allied victory over Germany. In September 1941, Stalin told British diplomats that he wanted two agreements: (1) a mutual assistance/aid pact and (2) a recognition that, after the war, the Soviet Union would gain the territories in countries that it had taken pursuant to its division of Eastern Europe with Hitler in the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.[149] The British agreed to assistance but refused to agree upon the territorial gains, which Stalin accepted months later as the military situation deteriorated somewhat in mid-1942.[149] By December, Hitler's troops had advanced to within 20 miles of the Kremlin in Moscow.[150] On 5 December, the Soviets launched a counteroffensive, pushing German troops back 40–50 miles from Moscow, the Wehrmacht's first significant defeat of the war.[150]
In 1942, Hitler shifted his primary goal from an immediate victory in the East, to the more long-term goal of securing the southern Soviet Union to protect oil fields vital to a long-term German war effort.[151] While Red Army generals saw evidence that Hitler would shift efforts south, Stalin considered this to be a flanking campaign in efforts to take Moscow.[152] During the war, Time magazine named Stalin Time Person of the Year twice[153] and he was also one of the nominees for Time Person of the Century title.[citation needed]
Soviet push to Germany
The Soviets repulsed the important German strategic southern campaign and, although 2.5 million Soviet casualties were suffered in that effort, it permitted the Soviets to take the offensive for most of the rest of the war on the Eastern Front.[154]
Germany attempted an encirclement attack at Kursk, which was successfully repulsed by the Soviets.[155] Kursk marked the beginning of a period where Stalin became more willing to listen to the advice of his generals.[156] By the end of 1943, the Soviets occupied half of the territory taken by the Germans from 1941–1942.[156] Soviet military industrial output also had increased substantially from late 1941 to early 1943 after Stalin had moved factories well to the East of the front, safe from German invasion and air attack.[157]
In November 1943, Stalin met with Churchill and Roosevelt in Tehran.[158] The parties later agreed that Britain and America would launch a cross-channel invasion of France in May 1944, along with a separate invasion of southern France.[159] Stalin insisted that, after the war, the Soviet Union should incorporate the portions of Poland it occupied pursuant to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Germany, which Churchill opposed.[160]
In 1944, the Soviet Union made significant advances across Eastern Europe toward Germany,[161] including Operation Bagration, a massive offensive in Belorussia against the German Army Group Centre.[162]"

Now, do we Still have a problem understanding Jung’s running off in 1943 to suck up to Dulles?
Count the casualties the Russians had already suffered, and the advances they were making against Jung’s “Truly Mystic Medicine Man” & “Demi-Deity” Hitler.
Even a séance sucker like Jung could see he’d backed a loser, and the price the Russians were willing to pay left No Doubt in his mind that falling into Stalin’s hands was not an option, (read the whole page. Stalin had his own Generals shot for losing, and his own soldiers machine gunned for retreating.) so he ran off to Dulles and offered up his Almighty ‘Opinion’ that Ike subsequently read, and dismissed. If the German Wehrmacht could have been talked into just dropping their arms and surrendering, it would have been a Hell of a lot less expensive than driving them back at gunpoint all the way to Berlin.
Face it, Anonymous, Jung jumped the SS Hitler only After he learned it was going down.
Why did the British Foreign Office – as Noll writes – want to hang him at Nuremberg as a Nazi pseudo-scientist?
"How odd that the Swiss psychoanalyst, who considered himself the founder of a new religion to replace traditional Christianity, who wrote of his own "deification" as a lion-headed god from an ancient Aryan mystery cult, should achieve such pre-eminent status.

Odder yet, in our post-Holocaust world, that Jung, a virulent anti-Semite whom the British Foreign Office wanted tried at the Nuremberg war crimes trials as a Nazi pseudoscientist, should be embraced as a spiritual guide by millions of Catholics seeking psychological healing."

And let’s not forget what Jung’s fellow Psychiatrists in Germany were responsible for, which Jung tried to whitewash his own part in.
1933: Dr. M. H. Goring (relative of Hermann Goring, Nazi leader) founds the New German Society for psychotherapy. Jung assumes the presidency. The society officially adopts the Nazi viewpoint on race, mental hygiene and psychiatry. Their journal states, "This Society has the task of unifying all German physicians in the spirit of the National Socialistic government...particularly those physicians who are willing to practice psychiatry according to the 'Weltanschauung' of the National Socialists." Jung writes in the journal, "... The Jew, a cultural nomad, has never and probably will never create his own cultural forms because all his instincts and gifts depend on a more or less civilized host nation. The Aryan unconscious has a higher potential than the Jewish..." On June 21, 1933, Jung states on the Radio Berlin that, "Only the self-development of the individual, which I consider to be the supreme goal of all psychological endeavor, can produce consciously responsible spokesmen and leaders of the collective movement. As Hitler said recently, the leader must be able to be alone and must have the courage to go his own way."

Jung was as Full of it in 1943 as the very thought, today, of hiding behind his ‘Beyond Science’ astral plane psychoanalyzings to disable & poison/electrocute people still is.
Would anyone Else out there like to have a go at Shining up Carl Jung's reputation?

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